Commentary By Lee Russ

Watching the Watchers

I do this as a public service. If you've swallowed something toxic and need to throw up quickly to save your life, check out Right Wing News's Interviewing Six Conservative Female Bloggers On Dating.

Someone named Cassy Fiano says:

I tend not to date liberals, for a reason. Politics is so important to what I do and I follow it so much. I can't respect a guy who's liberal all that much because it makes me question his intelligence. So, that's a big minus because I'm thinking how smart can this guy be if he thinks John Kerry is a great politician? (Laughs) If he thinks Barack Obama would be a great President, I think, gee, how bright could this guy be?

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They don't have the manners that conservatives do. I think that's because conservative men buy into this feminist orthodoxy less. They don't have a thing about paying for you on a date, holding a door open, being a gentleman. Conservatives do that more than liberals do. ...just the old fashioned gentleman type that women really want, but there aren't that many of them out there any more.

Some of the guys I have dated started out liberal, but they didn't stay that way.

Interviewer: You convert them, huh?

Yeah, pretty much. It's a slow process, but not impossible and I've done it. But, I sort of prefer to just date someone who's conservative right off the bat because the conversion thing, you never really know if they are doing it just to keep you happy or what. ...I definitely have strong convictions and politics is important to me. It's an essential part of my life. ...It seems like it's just political beliefs but those things extend into other facets of your life -- how you raise children, and what kind of marriage you're going to have...

Absolutely. It's kind of like night and day. I have always had a policy of not dating liberals, but once, after a bad break-up, I dated a couple of liberal guys...

First of all, they don't have the same values and I find that to be a fundamental problem. I know a lot of people are willing to accept that, but I'm not. Their whole world view is different from someone who has conservative values and traditional values as a way of life.

Being focused on yourself, and your rights, and materialism, and no ultimate sense of morality -- because I guess when you believe in a more secular way of life, a more liberal viewpoint, it's all about what you can do for yourself and how you can be happy...and you don't have any belief in absolute truth or religious principles to guide how you live. You get guys who are selfish and into themselves and don't care so much about humanity, other people, or me -- that just leads to a lot of problems. I also have a problem with guys who are into things like getting completely trashed and doing drugs...

Yeah, in the past year, I think I've dated one or two of them. There is usually an issue there with religion, which is kind of frustrating, because you're not necessarily going to go out on one or two dates with someone and think that you're going to marry them. But, with long term goals, how you're going to raise your kids, whether you're going to bring them to church or not, you wonder if that person is going to show the same values -- there tends to be a difference there with liberal guys.

Another turn-off with liberal guys, at least for me, tends to be 2nd Amendment stuff. Gun rights? I think it's kind of wimpy when guys don't think people should be able to protect themselves.

My experience with liberals is that superficially, they may be more fun to be around. They're a bit looser and more relaxed. They make an effort to be more sensitive, but the sensitivity only goes so far. It's easy for a man to keep this illusion of being a great, sensitive romantic if he knows he's just going to sleep with you and then say good-bye. Anybody can be Mr. Love God for one night or one week or one month.

When I became conservative, which coincided with my becoming a Christian, I realized that even though there were things I liked sentimentally about liberal men, I wanted somebody who shared my values. Conservatives might not always be so easy to get along with at first, but I thought it was worth my time to get to know men who were compatible with me and would eventually warm up.

a. Socializing with the staff at a concentration camp

b. Role playing with a mental patient

c. Communicating with someone raised by wolves

d. An unnecessary pain in the ass

e. Pedophilia

f. All the above and more

Who knew that a rational view of the Second Amendment could immunize you from a very scary human infection?

Hmm.. wanting to date a guy that will behave as a gentleman, who will treat you and others respectfully, and who actually believes in family, patriotism, and hard work..

What a novel idea! Of course women would rather date a conservative..

Dear Visitor,

Your very implication that liberals, as a group, will not "teat you and others respectfully, and ... believe in family, patriotism, and hard work.." is a true testament to the insanity afflicting our country.

Congratulations on being a part of the problem.

Dude, why'd you send me your corny post? That hungry for hits? Sad.

Karol dude,

What the hell are you talking about? I sent you nothing.

I think the arguments posed by the bloggers have some good points. The problem is in categorizing conservatives as "this" and liberals as "that." I know plenty of "liberals" who are members of the NRA, and "conservatives" that are coke-heads.

I am as pinko commie as it gets, but I have a very strongly religious life, and a very traditional and conservative family life.

Try to get rid of this "us" versus "them" mentality, it is counterproductive.

"Try to get rid of this "us" versus "them" mentality, it is counterproductive."

Couldn't agree more. But there's a problem: Rove, Norquist, Delay-- all the way back to Lee Atwater--have adopted this kind of absolute war/partisanship as a tactic. Norquist even publicly stating the desire to turn the debate in the various state legislatures more nasty and partisan. They know that this atmosphere favors them.

So we have a generation of "dittoheads" and the empty heads like the female bloggers that prompted this story. They aren't a majority, but they are numerous, and they are addicted to this nonsense. I posted the story as a sickening illustration of the mindset.

They will do everything humanly possible to keep the atmosphere this way, to reduce the debate to sound bites and inbred assumptions about what labels like "liberal" represent.

So how do we go about getting, as Stephen Kay once said, "from here, to there, eventuually?"

you're a lefty fag

"you're a lefty fag"

Ah, the innate intelligence of the conservatorium rears its juvenile little head once again.

Yo' mama, you mindless pubescent.

Ah, the great Commie experience. Brings to mind the humanitarian leanings of Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Mao, etc... Hmm, just can't figure out why a caring, respectful woman would ever turn down the affections of a man that holds Communism so true to his heart.

See how well the knuckle-dragging wing's rhetoric reflects back on them when you replace the key words:

Ah, the great Fascist experience. Brings to mind the humanitarian leanings of Mussolini, Pinochet, Somoza, Bautista, etc... Hmm, just can't figure out why a caring, respectful woman would ever turn down the affections of a man that holds Fascism so true to his heart.

The truth of the matter is that 95% of people don't want to mix politics and dating.

When politically-inclined people date non-political people, it never lasts long because non-political people find politically-inclined people to be as boring as watching paint dry. Or annoying as hearing nails on a chalkboard.

Replace the chalkboard with eyes and then use the nails to gouge them out and you've got what happens when dedicated liberals and dedicated conservatives try to date.

My answer, Lee, is a. This deranged fringe of people are the kind who would try to cram one more poor soul into a boxcar to show their superior efficiency over their fellow fascists or who would cram one more body into the oven in order to show that they love the Fatherland that much more than the rest.